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Melanie Phillips, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, The EDL, and The British Controversy

June 29, 2013

Editor’s Note: Just to throw in my two cents. I like Melanie Phillips. She is on the right page in regards to islam. I have read her books and her last book, “The World Turned Upside Down” is excellent. However, I agree with Jamie Glazov’s statement – “There are talkers and there are doers” – and it is easy to sit in a safe, comfortable place and critique the actions of those in the thick of the street battles. I don’t know much about Melanie other than what I read but I do know quite a bit about Robert and Pamela by their respective blogs and talking with Pamela throught emails. This much I know without a doubt: Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are DOERS. They are not just talking the talk – they are walking the walk. They are walking where the rubber meets the road – literally – out in the streets. Subject to ridicule, hate, being spit on, cursed at, constantly bombarded by death threats – this shit done got real for these two champions of truth. So before ANYONE accuses Pamela Geller or Robert, falsely, in any way, first walk the streets and feel the heat of battle and hatred from the angry muslim mobs – then come back and we can talk. Until then, anyone not willing to do what they do, needs to shut the hell up. And that is my say, ZTW


Jamie Glazov over at Front Page Magazine weighs in on what is essentially a meaningless kerfuffle. Talk, talk, talk.Melanie Phillips’ appalling criticism of our joint actions with the EDL is that of an observer, a diagnostician. She is not an activist, and so her opinions on these matters are just so much prattle. There are talkers and there are doers …..

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Jamie Glazov’s expresses righteous indignation:

“Regarding Melanie Phillips’ Friendly Fire at Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller. . . .Phillips has hit two freedom fighters when the chips are down. The strategy and tactics of battle that she is distancing herself from and that she sees as lowbrow is precisely the mentality that has helped spawn the UK’s surrender to Sharia and Jihad — and is, in turn, precisely why Lee Rigby was recently murdered — and why Muhammad al-Arifi, Abu Qatada and Anjem Choudary are welcome in the UK and why Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer are not. This is the time when all of us must say unequivocally: “We are Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller.”

And Dr. Andrew Bostom wrote:

Morally Obtuse Melanie Phillips, Redux: “A Turban for a Durban?,” Re-Visited

Blogs by Pamela Geller [1] and Robert Spencer [2] have brought to my attention Melanie Phillips’ “commentary” on the UK Home Office rulings banning both of the courageous US writers and activists from attending a planned Woolwich commemoration ceremony by the English Defense League (EDL) for drummer, Lee Rigby brutally slain in an act of jihad butchery [3].Ms. Phillips rejects “the approach taken by either Geller or Spencer,” to what she terms, “the problem of Islamic extremism” because they dare to associate with a group, the EDL, and mysterious “others,” Phillips further insists, “which at best do not deal with the thuggish elements in their ranks and at worst are truly racist or xenophobic.”

Never mind that Phillips provides not one iota of proof for her allegations against  the EDL (she simply regurgitates agitprop calumnies), let alone the unnamed “others.” What I found striking—indeed, as my Yogi, Yogi Berra, might put it, “déjà vu all over again”—is that the morally obtuse Ms. Phillips has apparently learned and remembered nothing from her dangerously uninformed, preferentialsupport [4] of so-called “Muslim reformer” Ed Husain, in reality, a traditionalist Islamic Jew-hating bigot, over the intellectual honest and intrepid Somali Muslim freethinker Ayaan Hiris Ali, circa November, 2007.

Sadly apropos, almost 6-years later, here is what I wrote about Ms. Phillips’ distressingly ignorant “conclusions” following a November, 2007 debate she witnessed between Mr. Husain and Ms. Ali:

Friday, November 23, 2007 A Turban for a Durban? [4]

Melanie Phillips attended [5] what she termed a “riveting” debate between the much ballyhooed former Hizbut Tahrir enthusiast Ed Husain and the Somali secularist and former Dutch Parliamentarian Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Two years ago I discussed at some length [6] Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s lucid argumentation and moral and physical courage. She remains the same noble, eloquent, and committed person.

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From Atlas Shrugs: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/


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